It has come to my attention that the book, “The Harbinger,” by Jonathan Cahn has a lot of false teaching in it. Today we have access to so much information in the form of books, television, news, internet, and many other sources. We need to be careful what we read and listen too. We need discernment to know if the message is Biblical, or if it goes against the Bible. These are the only two possibilities, and we have to be extra careful today. If you will click on the link below, it will take you to an article by Christine Pack called, “A Commentary on the Harbinger: A Warning About the Harbinger. This article explains what is wrong with this teaching.
http://www.solasisters.com/2012/06/commentary-on-harbinger.html
Perhaps you have read this book and got all excited thinking the author is really on to something. What we find is that he has added extra-Biblical teaching to it.
Another good review is by Tim Challies. He is a wonderful Christian and reviews many books to help us with our discernment.
You can read his article below called, “The Ancient Mystery that Holds the Secret of America’s Future.
http://www.challies.com/book-reviews/the-ancient-mystery-that-holds-the-secret-of-americas-future
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Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
“EXTERMINATION OF THE CHRISTIANS IS A NECESSARY SACRIFICE”-ZOHAR, SHEMOTH
READ THE HARBINGER: FACT OR FICTION BY DAVID JAMES!
MY ANSWER: Read all of the relevant books; The Harbinger, The Harbinger Companion with Study Guide, The Truth About The Harbinger, The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction?, then watch The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment DvDs, and The Harbinger Decoded DvD. Go to my website; The Pepster’s Post: A Voice in Cyberspace, and Connie/Faith’s site, Faith’s Corner, and read the various articles we’ve posted on The Harbinger. Then after making a thorough investigation of the facts; make up your mind about, but not a moment before you’ve done all of the above.
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RAFAEL says:
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
CONCERNING JOSE J. BERNAL AUTHOR OF THE BOOK THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HARBINGER:
JOSE J. BERNAL A MINISTER UNDER THE PASTORAL LEADERSHIP OF JONATHAN CAHN BELIEVES IT’S OKAY FOR CHRISTIAN BIBLE SCHOLARS(INCLUDING HIMSELF & JONATHAN CAHN) TO USE THE ZOHAR, A JEWISH MYSTICAL SATANIC BIBLE TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR APOLOGETICS.
MY ANSWER: It is both an honor and a privilege to be an active part in the ministry of Beth Israel, and to know Pastor and Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, and to call him both brother and a dear and beloved friend. Neither he nor I are any of the mischaracterizations that this crank by the name of Rafael calls us. I would caution everyone to be discerning and remember that it is the wolf in sheep’s clothing who attack the sheep. Sheep do not attack sheep. Wolves attack sheep. When you see someone who says he is a Christian attack another Christian or other Christians repeatedly by accusing him/them as Rafael does of something that he/they do not involve himself/themselves in, you know who you are dealing with. There is only one accuser of the brethren before God, and his servants make it a pretense to appear as ministers of light, when they are actually ministers of darkness and all falsehoods. Of course, as in the other discussions, the accuser of the brethren manifests himself in his servant Rafael to bear false witness, confuse the body, cause dissension, and bear false witness.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
Jose J. Bernal said:
“Isn’t it amazing how God uses Paul in Acts 17 to teach the pagans from their own writings on Mar’s Hill and how in Apologetics even the Book of Zohar unwittingly supports the Gospel because it has been used by faithful witness Apologists as a “hostile witness” of the Gospel? Only God can do such things; turn something like the Book of Zohar into a tool that bears witness that Jesus is the Messiah! Thank you.”
“The only thing that I would use the Zohar for and the Talmud would be for the same use that eminent Messianic Jews such as Dr. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum, Dr. Michael Rygelnik, Dr. Michael Brown, Dr. Mitch Glazer, and many more, such as Pastor and Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn would use such works for; to affirm from them the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is called in Apologetics “the fair use of a hostile witness” to affirm a specific matter”.
MY ANSWER: I stand by every word. This is not the only book that has been used as a hostile witness by Christian apologists.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
THINK TWICE before you decide to visit Mr. Bernal’s website, THE PEPSTER’S POST: A VOICE IN CYBERSPACE. Be advised that Mr. Bernal is a strong advocate of the following occultic literary works: The Babylonian Talmud, the Zohar, & other Rabbincal Writings etc. I stumbled across this back in April 30th, 2013 when I decided to check out his website and profile. These occultic books were listed under his stockpile of favorite books. Ever since April 30th he modified his list of favorite books to list only rabbinical writings. These rabbinical writings were written by NEW AGE RABBINICAL SAGES, members of an occultic religion, Orthodox Judaism.
MY ANSWER: Rafael, you claim to have visited my website. Did you bother to read anything in it? Because I do NOT have anything of the sort, though as an apologist for the Gospel, I would certainly cite from these works, wherever there is any evidence in support of the Gospel. It does not mean I believe in those writings, or that I elevate them; it means that for the purposes of apologetics, I would cite any narrative within them that supports the Gospel.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO GOES BY THE NAME OF JP COLLADO WHO HAS BEEN RECENTLY ACTIVE ON THIS DISCUSSION BOARD, IS A STRONG ADVOCATE OF THIS SATANIC BOOK THE ZOHAR. ON AUGUST 26, 2012 HE MADE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT AND I QUOTE:
….THE ZOHAR, A HEBREW SOURCE THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THE ONE TRUE GOD OF THE BIBLE AND NO OTHER”. REALLY JP?
What you need to know about these occultic writings:
Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai was the author of the Zohar. He was one of the great Talmudic scholars of the ORAL LAW of the second century A.D. The Roman Emperor of that time placed a contract on the head of Rabbi Yochai. Fearing for his life, Rabbi Yochai & his son Rabbi Elazar took refuge in a cage in Pequi’in, Israel. There for 13 years father & son buried themselves everyday in the ground up to their necks in an effort to subjugate the distractions of the human body. It was during this time that they SUPPOSEDLY recieved instructions in the deepest mysteries of the Torah from Prophet Elijah(YEAH RIGHT). These teachings would later become the foundations of the Zohar.
Also be advised, that Rabbi Simeon bar Yochai ENDORSED the practice of PEDERASTY as recorded in The Babylonian Talmud to his followers!
For INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE to the above statements please go to YOU TUBE and watch the following documentaries:
1) DECODING THE PAST-SECRETS OF THE KABBALAH by the History Channel 2009 45 mins
2) ZIONISM & CHRISTIANITY, AN UNHOLY ALLIANCE by Ted Pike 1hr & 35 min
3)ISRAELI TERRORISM AND THE TALMUD 7 MINS & 15 seconds
4) KABBALAH TALMUD ZIONISM PERVERSE PERPETUATED EVIL IMF NWO PARTS 1-3
Also the teaching “THE ZOHAR SPEAKS” by Jonathan Cahn is based on OCCULTIC DOCTRINE. It’s ORIGINS are from the
KABBALAH/ZOHAR. It is being widely taught by KABBALIST in their KABBALISTIC CENTERS. For INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE log onto YOU TUBE & on the search bar type: GOLGOTHA & JESUS by BILLY PHILLIPS 23 mins & 48 seconds. Also on You Tube in the search bar type: Zohar-Golgotah by Jonathan Cahn 3mins & 8 seconds to see the correlation with what is being taught in KABBALISTIC CENTERS.
MY ANSWER: I recommend that everyone take the time to read Ladybug’s rebuttal to this ludicrous charge made here by this raving lunatic. I also recommend that they read what I have written regarding these charges. There is something terribly wrong with somebody when you repeatedly tell them that you do NOT believe in or support something, and they keep replying that you do. Not normal behavior.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
Whether Mr. Bernal or Mr. Cahn choose to admit it or not, any professing christian that is consulting with rabbinical sources as listed above, in search for a so called “PURER” understanding of the Old Testament in the name of apologetics as they previously have claimed, is consulting with the occult! Christians who engage in such religious practices for the purpose of seeking support from rabbinical exegesis, are trafficking in Babylonian Paganism/the occult when they defer to the Rabbis of Orthodox Judaism. THEY ARE IN ESSENCE IMPORTING JEWISH GNOSTICISM INTO THE BODY OF CHRIST.
MY ANSWER: There is only One pure source for our understanding and enlightenment; the Holy Bible. There is no other.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
IT IS ADVISABLE FOR MR. JOSE BERNAL & JONATHAN CAHN TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF THE EPHESIANS IN ACTS 19:19 AND BURN YOUR OCCULTIC BOOKS IN A BIG BONFIRE; INSTEAD OF TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR HERETICAL DOCTRINES BY MEANS OF VERBAL HAIRSPLITTING, WHICH AMOUNTS TO NOTHING MORE THAN A SUBTLE FORM OF SUBTERFUGE.
“EXTERMINATION OF THE CHRISTIANS IS A NECESSARY SACRIFICE” -ZOHAR, SHEMOTH
READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY AND WHAT I AM ABOUT TO DISCLOSE ABOUT THE AUTHOR OF THE ZOHAR, RABBI SIMEON BEN YOHAI.
MY ANSWER: Again, Rafael is bearing false witness and is in violation of the commandment that proscribes it. We do no possess such works, and for Rafael/Gabriel Suarez to presume to make this claim is evidence that everything he says is laced with pure conjecture, being a false report and outright lies from the pit of hell. Gabriel snapped sometime ago, and needs help.
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Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
The Zohar falls under the category of pseudepigrapha (see JEWISHENCYCLOPEDIA.com). The Zohar is a pseudepigraphic work which PRETENDS to be a REVELATION FROM GOD communicated through Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai to the latter’s select disciples in the form of a COMMENTARY on the first 5 books of Moses/Torah. I qoute the following definition from Dr. Randall Price’s book ” Searching for the Original Bible” page 136 the following: “the term pseudepigrapha literally means falsely entitled. It refers to a collection of some 63 documents written between 250BC-200AD by hellenistic jews. Each book was written under a psuedonym whose work was not part of the canonical hebrew bible. No psuedepigrapha texts are CITED or EXPLICITLY referred to by any biblical authors of the New Testament(and I will add neither by Jesus himself)”.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
I also make the following quote from Bob Larson’s book “WORLD RELIGIONS & ALTERNATIVE SPIRITUALITY” pages 291-292 in regards to the Zohar & the Kabbalah:
MY ANSWER: Again, this has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
“At the core of jewish myticism is the practice of ESOTERIC DISCIPLINES that tap into the secret wisdom that can involve ascent to and unitive experiences with the divine realm. Contemporary teachers of the ZOHAR/KABBALAH say the emphasis of Kabbalah should be on putting it’s principles into action rather than worrying about theology and the nature of GOD. And as is often the case with New Age religions, the emphasis is on what is in it for us. In the case of the Zohar/Kabbalah, it’s promoters claim it will bring people peace,joy and fulfillment without any worries about moral codes like the 10 Commandments” end of quote.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is? This has nothing to do with The Harbinger, and it is being posted here by Rafael in order to create an urban legend that Jonathan Cahn is a Jewish mystic. This is based on the flawed writing of Berit Kjos and Jeremy James, who read David James’ flawed conjecture and conclusions about a message Jonathan Cahn gave and a cherry-picked selection of ten titles out of 1,700 messages that sound mysterious because they use words David James finds objectionable, and therefore in his rulebook should never be used by Christians; words such as signs, wonders, mystery, code, seals, etc.. Amazing, because the Bible uses these words. But Rafael lacks the mental acumen to understand this, and make the distinction between facts and fiction, myth and reality, fallacies and facts.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
With regards to Mr. Cahn’s use of the Jewish Talmud, what exactly is so HERETICAL about it which is never disclosed? It is considered HOLY WRIT for the Jews. The Talmud SUPERCEDES the OLD TESTAMENT in authority for the Jews. And the Talmud is the MOST RACIST, HATE MONGERING, BLASPHEMOUS BOOK the world has ever known! The Satanic verses of the Talmud can be classified into 3 categories:
1) JEWISH SUPREMACY
2)HATRED TOWARDS THE GOYS(GENTILES) &
3) BLASPHEMIES AGAINST JESUS CHRIST, THE VIRGIN MARY & ALL CHRISTIANS.
But the Messiah Yeshua(Jesus) censored the ORAL LAW(TALMUD) when he said “BY THE TRADITIONS OF YOUR ELDERS(PHARISEES) YOU MAKE VOID THE WORD OF GOD MATHEW 15.
MY ANSWER: This broad Anti-Jewish statement is incorrect. The Talmud is not considered a holy book by all Jews. It is considered a holy book by some Jews who followed Rabbinic Halacha, inasmuch as The Mishna and Gemara portions contain the recorded Oral Law handed down for centuries by those elements within Judaism that continued the Pharisaic Tradition of adding to the Law. We do not know whether the extreme Anti-Semitic statements cited here are Rafael’s or someone else’s, such as Ted W. Pike, because Rafael just copies, paste, and posts these without making a distinction between himself and those whom he often quotes.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
For a more indepth study of the Jewish Talmud go to the following link:
realjewnews.com and look up the article “SATANIC VERSES OF THE JEWISH TALMUD” by Brother Nathanael Kapner.
The HARBINGER STRONGLY RESEMBLES ARTIFICIAL DIVINATION. ARTIFICIAL DIVINATION depends on the skill of the agent in reading & interpreting certain SIGNS called OMENS/HARBINGERS! IT IS MY PERSONAL BELIEF THAT THIS IS HOW THE HARBINGER MAY HAVE BEEN DEVISED.
MY ANSWER: NO IT DOES NOT. One wonders whether Rafael knows what artificial divination is. I would ask Rafael to give us an example where The Harbinger resembles artificial divination, and then to actually cite an authenticate citation of artificial divination. This is absolute nonsense, and bearing false witness without the facts, but pure conjecture without a shred of evidence to support it.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
And God’s word CONDEMS SUCH OCCULTIC PRACTICES….WHO PRACTICE DIVINATION….DEUTERONOMY 18:10.
1 Thes: 5:21 & Acts 17:11 commands us to test all things. This is not an option. Blind acceptance of any theological view, simply because it was set forth by a respected brother or minister is very dangerous and detrimental to the Body of Christ to say the least.
MY ANSWER: I would recommend to Rafael to do just as he admonishes here from the Scriptures. Read The Harbinger, Read The Harbinger Companion with Study Guide, read The Truth About The Harbinger, watch The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment, and The Harbinger Decoded, and then form an opinion. But until he has done this, he is in absolutely no position to pass judgment on this book, and to write in such a manner as he does here and in other posts of his.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
Paul in Galatians 1:8 exhorts the Body of Christ as follows: NOW EVEN IF WE OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN SHOULD DECLARE TO YOU ANOTHER GOSPEL OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE HAVE DECLARED TO YOU, HE WILL BE CURSED.
If the body of Christ is ready to EMBRACE ANOTHER GOSPEL CORRUPTED WITH JEWISH MYSTICISM, THEY CAN HAVE IT. After spending more than 7 years at Beth Israel, I have no doubt that the MESSIANIC JEWISH MOVEMENT are involved with DOCTRINES & RELIGIOUS PRACTICES that are INCONSISTENT with God’s Word and are CONTRARY to HIS WILL FOR THE BODY OF CHRIST.
Log onto the following link: jesus-messiah.com and read the article “DANGERS OF THE FALSE MESSIANIC MOVEMENT by Dr. G. RECKART- PASTOR.
MY ANSWER: My wife and I are active members of Beth Israel, and we’ve been visiting it since 1998. Where were you all of that time, and why didn’t we meet? We know almost everybody there, with the exception of new people who visit. Why haven’t I ever met you or heard your name? Gabriel Suarez? Who is Gabriel Suarez? Who are you Gabriel? A fraud, and an unbeliever who sows discord and bears false witness about a servant of Christ to the public. That is not the behavior of a born again Spirit-filled child of God. That is the role of Satan, the accuser of the brethren before God, and this is all you do here and all over Amazon.com. This is not the service of God you’re doing here and across various Amazon.com discussion boards. Take out the HUGE Beam in your own eye, and that beam is full of many false assumptions and mischaracterizations of others, and then you’ll be able to see clearly enough to distinguish between true and false.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
Everything that is being shared with you ultimately led to my resignation as a member from Beth Israel. If you want to ignore my warnings, feel free to do so at your own peril.
It is advisable for Mr. Jonathan Cahn and any other staff member within his ministry who are in possesion of these OCCULTIC WORKS OF LITERATURE( i.e. Mr. JOSE J. BERNAL THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HARBINGER- RELEASE DATE OCT 1, 2013) to follow the example of the EPHESIANS in ACTS 19:19 and burn your occultic books in a BONFIRE instead of trying to justify your heretical doctrines in the name of APOLOGETICS. Galatians 5: 19 “FOR THE WORKS OF THE FLESH ARE WELL KNOWN…..VERSE 20….HERESIES…..VERSE 21…..AS I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE AND I SAY TO YOU NOW, THOSE WHO PRACTICE SUCH THINGS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
MY ANSWER: As evidence that you do not know what you are talking about, and that you are a liar and an accuser of the brethren who bears false witness against them; I do not possess, nor have I ever possessed either the Talmud or the Book of Zohar which you claim here and in other places you’ve posted this false report; neither I or Jonathan Cahn possess.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
“It is not for nothing that the authoritative edition of the Talmud is known as the Babylonian Talmud. As Christians misled by their Judaizing preachers & popes are increasingly consulting Jewish rabbinical sources for a “PURER” understanding of the Old Testament, they are unknowningly consulting the OCCULT.
Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees and the patrimony of Babylon from where the Talmudic & Kabbalistic traditions of Judaism ultimately derive. Orthodox Judaism’s other sacred book, the Kabbalah ( THE ZOHAR BEING IT’S PREMIER TEXT OF OCCULT KNOWLEDGE) is filled with astrological teachings, fortune telling, gematria, necromancy & DEMONOLOGY.
Orthodox Rabbis place curses, cast spells & imagine they have powers greater than God, derived from their study of the Sefer Yezriah(a book of Kabbalistic Magic). Christians are TRAFFICKING in Babylonian Paganism when they DEFER to the Rabbis of Judaism” MICHAEL HOFFMAN.
Every christian across America who have read Mr. Cahn’s book and concluded that it is a PROPHETIC WORD from God to this nation, need to seriously re-examine your beliefs. Jewish Gnosticism is being IMPORTED very SUBTLELY into mainstream Christianity. YOUR ETERNAL DESTINY MAY BE IN JEOPARDY!
MY ANSWER: The Roman Catholic Church banned the possession and reading of The Talmud and other rabbinical works. Have you read The Harbinger, Gabriel Suarez, AKA Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL? I you have, you would not write here that it promotes the Talmud or Jewish Gnosticism, as you call it. Again, the addition bearing of false witness against a servant of Almighty God.
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Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
FOR A MORE IN DEPTH STUDY OF ACTS 17:22-31 READ THE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY R.K. McGREGOR WRIGHT, TH.M.,PH.D. “PAUL’S PURPOSE AT ATHENS AND THE PROBLEM OF COMMON GROUND” PARTS 1,2,& 3.
The Link is as follows: dtl.org/apologetics/wright/athens.
MY ANSWER: Their articles have nothing to do with The Harbinger. Bringing this up here is like bringing up soccer when discussing hockey. It has absolutely nothing to do with The content of The Harbinger.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
Anyone who believes that The Harbinger is based solely on the inerrant word of God will be subjected to a great delusion. I am in a position to know. I was once a member of Beth Israel for many years. My statements are not about ministry bashing. I am here to expose the fact that Jonathan Cahn for many years has been utilizing mystical hebrew writings such as the Zohar and the Jewish Talmud to supplement and substantiate some of his teachings and sermons.
MY ANSWER: My wife and I have been members of Beth Israel for years and have been attending services since 1998. We never met anyone by your name, and would have known who you are, Gabriel Suarez, had you been attending and a member for many years as you claim here. Now, I am not denying that during a seven year period, you might’ve attended some services on Friday nights or Sunday mornings, but you were not a member. Had you been a member, I would have met you. I never did. No sir, you are were not a member.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
THE ZOHAR MEANS “RADIANCE or SPLENDOR”. IT IS THE PREMIER TEXT OF OCCULT KNOWLEDGE WITHIN THE KABBALAH and a basis for laws instituted by NEW AGE RABBINICAL SAGES. The Zohar is a synthesis of the OCCULT GNOSIS of PHARAONIC EGYPT & ANCIENT BABYLON.
And he claims that there is absolutely nothing wrong with quoting from the Zohar. That many apologists, bible commentators etc do this (see standupforthetruth.com on his most recent interview question #6 June 2012).
Of course they do. ONLY professing christian kabbalists and christian gnostics use the Zohar as a reference manual in their QUEST FOR ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGE by decoding the past like Mr. Cahn does; in search of so called biblical mysteries which just don’t exist within the sacred text.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
The Zohar is the MYSTICAL CLASSICAL TEXT USED BY THE KABBALISTS. This practice by Jonathan Cahn is the equivalent of many christians who today attempt to interpret bible prophecies by using the Quatrains of Nostradamus. I was there one night at Beth Israel several years ago, when he preached that sermon “the Zohar Speaks”. I heard and saw him say 2 times to the congregation, that he believed these new age rabbinical sages who wrote the Zohar(Rabbi Simeon bar Yochai and Rabbi Moses De Leon etc) and writings were put there by the Holy Spirit . BUT THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD THROUGH HIS SPIRIT PLAINLY STATES THAT SUCH MEN WILL ARISE IN THE LAST DAYS SEE 1 TIMOTHY 4:1 & GALATIANS 1:8-9.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
In standupforthetruth.com, Mr. Cahn in question#5 was aked: “One critic said that since The Harbinger speaks of MYSTERIES being revealed-does this have to do with GNOSTIC beliefs?
ANSWERE(sic) A very confused view. Unless we want to call the Apostle Paul a gnostic, SINCE HE ALSO SPOKE OF MYSTERIES. It’s precisely the opposite. The Gnostics believed in knowledge that was to be kept secret, to stay a mystery. God is the one who reveals mysteries. THE HARBINGER DOES LIKEWISE-IT REVEALS MYSTERIES. If there are no mysteries, then we know everything there is to know. But we don’t. And God, by his Spirit, is to lead us to continual insight, and show us things we don’t know.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is? Anyway, until one understands something, for example, like the inner workings of code in computer languages, it is nothing but a mystery to them. What is wrong with that? It is wrong if someone comes along and says it’s wrong by making an erroneous connection between computer languages and the writings of the Gnostics because the word mystery was used to in describing a layman’s understanding of how computers work. This conjecturing on Rafael’s part is preposterous.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
REBUTTAL: I make the following quotation from the book “CORRECTING THE CULTS” from pages 108-109(authors Norman L. Geisler & Ron Rhodes apologist) Mathew 13:10-11: DID JESUS TEACH THAT WE NEED TO SEEK A HIDDEN, SECONDARY(esoteric) MEANING IN SCRIPTURE, AS NEW AGERS SAY?
MY ANSWER: Agree, we do not need to seek a second hidden esoteric meaning from God’s Word or anywhere else. This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
Misinterpretation: Some New Agers appeal to Mathew 13:10-11 in an attempt to show that we should seek secret and hidden(esoteric) meaning in scripture. Jesus is portrayed being in front of a multitude composed of both believers and unbelievers. He did not attempt to separate the believers from the unbelievers and then instruct only the believers. Rather, he constructed his teaching in such a way that believers would understand what he said but unbelievers would not-by using parables. Then, after teaching one such parable, a disciple asked Jesus: “Why do you speak to the people in parables”? (see Mathew 13:10). Jesus answered: “THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SECRETS(OR MYSTERIES) OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN HAS BEEN GIVEN TO YOU(believers) BUT NOT TO THEM(unbelievers)
Mathew 13:11.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
IN OTHER WORDS, JESUS IS CLEARLY STATING THE MYSTERIES OF GOD’S KINGDOM AND OF HUMAN HISTORY PAST, PRESENT, & FUTURE HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVEALED BY GOD’S INERRANT WORD! NOT BY SEEKING HIDDEN, SECONDARY OR ESOTERIC MEANING IN SCRIPTURE LIKE MR. JONATHAN CAHN DOES IN THE HARBINGER AND THROUGH HIS EXTRA-BIBLICAL THEOLOGY.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
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Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
If you really want to know what Jonathan Cahn’s teachings are as well as his theology, I strongly urge you to log onto the following website: deceptioninthechurch.com. At the home page, click on the tab marked book reviews. On the following page you will see letters a-z. Click on the letter h. On the h section, you will see several reviews of the Harbinger.
MY ANSWER: This discussion has been going on for a year and a half, and since then many of these people have discovered that their quick conclusions made without prior consultation with Rabbi Cahn about his book, and reviewing the book when they had not read it, but going on the early reports that Jimmy DeYoung and David James, and T.A. McMahon followed by Brannon Howse and others; had proven erroneous, and especially after Connie/Faith of Faith’s Corner, Ladybug on Amazon discussion boards; here, and here, myself, and others had addressed the urban legends that crept in as a result of these efforts, many of these people were never heard from again regarding this matter. With the publication of my book, The Truth About The Harbinger, and my posts on The Pepster’s Post: A Voice in Cyberspace; the chatter has died down a bit.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
Read the article and review done by Mrs. Berit Kjos. Mrs. Kjos provides indisputable evidence into Jonathan Cahn’s mystical views and theology under the article “the Zohar, the Kabbalah, & the Harbinger. Make sure you watch the video “the Zohar Speaks”. This is the smoking gun and the video Jonathan Cahn does not want the world to see! It is not an optical illusion. YOU CAN ALSO VIEW THIS VIDEO @ THE FOLLOWING
WEBSITE: Zohar-Golgotha
3 minutes & 8 seconds on You Tube. I strongly recommend every concerned christian to read the following article:
KABBALAH: GETTING BACK TO THE GARDEN by MARCIA MONTENEGRO
CHRISTIAN RESEARCH INSTITUTE: equip.org/articles/kabbalah-getting-back-to-the-garden
and
2) KABBALAH, CAHN, AND HEBREW MYSTICISM @ bereancall.org.
MY ANSWER: I have rebutted both articles on my website, The Pepster’s Post: A Voice in Cyberspace, and have shown the contrivance of both writers in accepting at face value the false narrative of David James’ book and not looking into the facts as they should have done before writing what they did about The Harbinger. If at least they would have done their homework, and read The Harbinger, and then written about it, they would not have made such horrendous charges as they do in their respective articles. But again, their articles are entirely based on the flawed conclusions of David James’ book and Internet articles on The Harbinger.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
The Harbinger is not based on sound orthodox christian theology. It is a blend of JEWISH MYSTICISM, camouflaged with Christian Apologetics. If you doubt me, read it for yourself. Turn to pages 240 and 242. In fact, read the entire last chapter of The Harbinger for a broader picture. Also notice the title of his dvd documentary and how it is worded:
Isaiah 9:10 Judgement. A Biblical Prophecy DECODED by Jonathan Cahn. THE WORD DECODED IS KABBALISTIC TERMINOLOGY. For the evidence to SUBSTANTIATE THESE CLAIMS SEE DECODING THE PAST-SECRETS OF THE KABBALAH(2009) ON YOU TUBE by The History Channel (45mins).
MY ANSWER: Rafael would not know what sound Christian theology is, and it is evident by what he writes and how often one has to repeat oneself while he continues to make the same accusations over and over and over again here and in other message boards.
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
I also highly RECOMMEND you watch on You Tube:
“THE JEWISH TALMUD EXPOSED” & CONFESSIONS OF A FORMER JEW” by Brother NATHANAEL KAPNER. You MUST also see this SHOCKING video on YOU TUBE “SATANIC TALMUD” by XLIVES.COM 10MIN & 19 SECONDS. Also I highly recommend you purchase: “THE SECRET HISTORY OF THE ZOHAR” BY MICHAEL BERG and JUDAISM’S STRANGE GODS by MICHAEL HOFFMAN @AMAZON.COM.
MY ANSWER: This has absolutely nothing to do with The Harbinger. The Harbinger does NOT quote from the Talmud, it does NOT quote from the Book of Zohar, and it does not contain a single Jewish mystical writing in its pages. I know, I have read it, and what Rafael writes here is evidence that he had never read The Harbinger, and does NOT know what he is talking about here. In fact, it must be asked just how biblically proficient Rafael is? How biblically literate he is?
Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez has written and posted:
In Dave James newly released book “The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction”, in chapter 17 “The Tenth Seal”, Mr. James discusses very profoundly the mystical qualities of Mr. Cahn’s kabbalistic theology. I make the following quote from page 198 of the same chapter:
” In the July 3, 2012 interview when Brannon Howse expressed his deep concern about Cahn using mystical sources for his messages, Cahn tried to justify his practice by noting that the Apostle Paul also referred to the teaching of pagan philosophers in his address to the Athenians (Acts 17:22-31). He went on to suggest that Paul would have been”crucified” by discernment ministries for using a hymn to Zeus and because of his associations. (WHAT ASSOCIATIONS? THAT PAUL BELIEVED THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST AND GREEK MYTHOLOGY HAVE A COMMON GROUND FOR SHARING THE WORD OF GOD?)
That is a red herring. The two situations are completely different. Paul’s approach is nothing like Cahn’s. Cahn refers to the mystical rabbinical writings POSITIVELY, saying that because God had inspired them his church should “listen to the rabbis”. He presents the Zohar as something that can be studied and it’s depths plumbed for hidden mysteries like he had just revealed for the first time.
In stark contrast, Paul immediately tells his audience that what they have been taught by their poets about the unknown god they worship is completely wrong. He does not suggest that their sayings contain hidden mysteries that were inspired by God and that he had just discovered for the first time. Paul never implies that the Athenians should listen to these men. Rather he refers to a single point of agreement(we all come from God) to denounce their idols. From Romans we understand that the knowledge of that truth is not a hidden mystery but has rather been made plain to everyone through both the conscience and the creation (Romans 1:18-2:16).
The above theological statement is further substantiated from the Apostle Paul’s letters to his Greek converts in the following biblical passages:
1 Corinthians 1:17- 31, 1 Corinthians 2:1-16 & Colossians 2:8 NKJV.
MY ANSWER: No, it’s not a red herring. Let us look at the Acts narrative David James discusses here:
So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects. For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, ‘TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.’ Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”
Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some began to sneer, but others said, “We shall hear you again concerning this.” So Paul went out of their midst. But some men joined him and believed, among whom also were Dionysius the Areopagite and a woman named Damaris and others with them.
(Acts 17:22-33)
There is absolutely no indication that Paul used the Greeks’ beliefs against them, but cited their monument to an “Unknown God” as his vehicle whereby which he shared the Gospel and the intimacy and reality of God to people whose concept was partial, because the One True God does not live in man-made structures, and rather than say, as David James claims here, that “what they” had “been taught by their poets about the unknown god they worship is completely wrong,” in fact, he uses this to share God’s Word with them, not criticize them about it.
When Paul tells the Athenians that “what you worship in ignorance” – that is to say, “what the Athenians worship without realizing” is very different than claiming that they are entirely wrong, because he uses the very worship of that same deity to present to them that unknowingly they worship the Living God, who is unknown to them, and therefore they label, To An Unknown God. Paul is not disputing their worship, he’s affirming that the God they worship in ignorance is God, because he ends this statement with, “this I proclaim to you.” – not, “You’re wrong in worshipping this unknown God,” as David James would like us to believe. The statement would be very different if it did not contain this ending, but it does and therefore it reads, “Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you.” – BIG DIFFERENCE.
Again, David James is reading this into Paul’s speech, and into Luke’s narrative of it, as he does with The Harbinger. It is David James who is entirely wrong in his interpretation of the Acts narrative. And Rafael/LEGNA/ANGEL/Gabriel Suarez, member of the Prophecy Club, agrees.
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Variation among Jewish denominations
Conservative Judaism
In Conservative Judaism, the majority of congregations do not perform the priestly blessing ceremony, but some do. In some American Conservative congregations that perform the ceremony, a bat kohen (daughter of a priest) can perform it as well.[24] Conservative Judaism has also lifted some of the restrictions on Kohanim including prohibited marriages. The Masorti movement in Israel, and some Conservative congregations in North America, require male kohanim as well, and retain restrictions on Kohanim.
Reform, Reconstructionist and Liberal Judaism
In Liberal (and American Reform) congregations, the concept of the priesthood has been largely abandoned, along with other caste and gender distinctions. Thus, this blessing is usually omitted or simply read by the hazzan. North American Reform Jews omit the Musaf service, as do most other liberal communities, and so if they choose to include the priestly blessing, it is usually appended to the end of the Shacharit Amidah. Some congregations, especially Reconstructionist ones, have the custom of the congregation spreading their tallitot over each other and blessing each other that way.
This custom was started when a Reconstructionist rabbi from Montreal, Lavy Becker saw children in Pisa, Italy, run under their fathers’ tallitot for the blessing, and he brought it home to his congregation.[25]
Orthodox Judaism does not permit a bat kohen (daughter of a kohen) or bat levi (daughter of a Levite) to participate in nesiat kapayim because the practice is a direct continuation of the Temple ritual, and should be performed by those who would authentically be eligible to do so in the Temple.
The Conservative movement’s Committee on Jewish Law and Standards has approved two opposing positions: One view holds that a bat kohen may deliver the blessing; another view holds that a bat kohen is not permitted to participate in the Priestly Blessing because it is a continuation of a Temple ritual which women were not eligible to perform.[26
Use in Christian liturgy
The Priestly blessing is listed as Solemn Blessing #10 (Ordinary Time I) in the Roman Missal, and it is widely used in Anglican, Lutheran and other liturgical churches. Only those ordained to consecrate the Eucharist (bishops and priests in the Catholic traditions and their equivalents in Protestant churches) are authorized to pronounce blessing (as opposed to asking for a blessing, as at a meal), and so are the only ones who perform the blessing in the Liturgy, however, due to the Christian theology of the priesthood of the baptized, all members of the church are considered kohanim, and the priest is considered an icon of the High Priest.
The version contained in the Roman Missal reads as follows:
Deacon or Priest: Bow your heads and pray for God’s blessing.
Celebrant (with arms extended): May the Lord bless you and keep you.
Response: Amen.
Celebrant: May the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious unto to you.
Response: Amen.
Celebrant: May the Lord look upon you with kindness, and give you peace.
Response: Amen.
Celebrant: And may the blessing of almighty God, the Father, and the Son, + (making the sign of cross) and the Holy Spirit, descend upon you and remain with you forever
Response: Amen.
Deacon or Priest: Go forth, the Mass is ended.
Response: Thanks be to God.
Pop culture
In the mid-1960s, actor Leonard Nimoy, who was raised in a traditional Jewish home, used a single-handed version of this gesture to create the Vulcan Hand Salute for his character, Spock, on Star Trek. He has explained that while attending Orthodox services as a child, he peeked from under his father’s tallit and saw the gesture; many years later, when introducing the character of Mr. Spock, he and series creator Gene Roddenberry thought a physical component should accompany the verbal “Live long and prosper” greeting. The Jewish priestly gesture looked sufficiently alien and mysterious, and became part of Star Trek lore.[27] Nimoy later recorded an English translation of the blessing for Civilization IV; the recording is played when the player discovers the technology “Priesthood”.
Bob Dylan’s song “Forever Young” from the Planet Waves album uses the form and some content (“May God Bless and keep you…”) of the Priestly Blessings.
Leonard Cohen ended his concert in Ramat Gan, Israel, on 24 September 2009, with the Priestly Blessing, i.e. reciting it in Hebrew.[28] As his name suggests, Cohen is halakhically a priest.
In the movie Deep Impact, the President of the United States, played by Morgan Freeman, recites the Priestly Blessing in a speech to the world. This speech announces to the world that a comet is approaching the world and will cause an E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event).
There is nothing about this hand signal that is Occultic, or pagan, or against any of the teachings of the Scriptures, but is a total unknown entity to Non-Jewish cultures, and the only people who see evil in it are those who tend to see evil in almost everything they do not understand and fear. It would do Rafael and others like him to first examine something before they condemn it. Doing this only betrays self-righteousness.
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